Michelle Beltran in Conversation with Kristen Noel at the Hay House World Summit

Psychic Medium, Author and Intuitive Life Coach, Michelle Beltran invites you to join her for The Intuitive Hour: Awaken Your Inner Voice. This podcast will teach you how to magnify the powers of your intuitive voice. In her own unique style, Michelle raises her vibrational energy to link with higher realms delivering insightful messages with grace, integrity, and the utmost care. Listen in and expand your understanding of what it means to be psychic and how to awaken, amplify, and trust your inner voice.

Join the episode today as Kristen Noel, editor in chief of Best Self magazine, chats with Michelle to discuss her award-winning book, Take the Leap: What it Really Means to Be Psychic, delving into psychic abilities and the power of our own intuitive voices. An episode you don’t want to miss! This interview was part of the popular 2017 Hay House World Summit!

Enjoy The Interview Transcript Below

NOEL: Welcome to the 2017 Hay House World Summit. We’re grateful that you’re joining us. I’m Kristen Noel, editor in chief of Best Self magazine, and I’m excited to sit down today to chat with Michelle Beltran to discuss her book, Take the Leap: What it Really Means to Be Psychic, delving into psychic abilities and the power of our own intuitive voices.

Michelle is a psychic medium, an author, and an intuitive coach. She has become a leading international authority in the spirituality arena, specializing in psychic functioning, spiritual counseling, controlled remote viewing, and mediumship. She is the owner of Readings with Michelle and the host of the iTunes podcast, The Intuitive Hour: Awaken Your Inner Voice. She is also a former professional cyclist and lifelong fitness enthusiast who deeply believes that by balancing health and nutrition, one promotes vitality and psychic intuitiveness.

And I have to interject and say she has one of the most diverse backgrounds I have ever encountered. That has surely enriched her experience in this arena and in her work with her clients. Welcome, Michelle.

BELTRAN: Hi, Kristen. Thank you so much, it’s an honor and pleasure to be here.

NOEL: And we are pleased to have you. So now that we’ve sparked some of the inquisitive minds, I think we should just dive right into your background, because I was just kind of amazed by your story. And I would love for you to tell us how someone with a degree in political science who seeks a career as a law-enforcement officer, was in the United States Air Force, and worked as a probation officer becomes a psychic [laughs]. I think that’s a good place to start.

BELTRAN: [Laughs] Excellent, yes, I love that question. Yeah, so I would say that in many ways, where I’ve come to does make sense, despite a career in law enforcement, despite a professional sport. I’ve had just the love and the passion and the desire for the metaphysical since a very young age. My first psychic reading was at nine—which I received, by the way, I did not give. I’ve found that I’ve used my gut sense and intuition throughout my life to guide me.

I am a second-generation psychic. When I was young, my mother, as a healer and energy worker and psychic herself, made it really safe for us to talk about the unknown. Spiritual books we had strewn about our home. It was safe and okay to talk about other realms and human possibility.

And so then, in my mid-twenties, I just developed this voracious appetite for the metaphysical and the psychic realm and found myself reading and rereading some of Hay House’s own—James Van Praagh, John Holland, Wayne Dyer, Deborah King. Reading and learning. And so, looking back, there’s a platform that was there. I will say it certainly found me, and I didn’t expect it. It just sort of unraveled.

And so, yeah, it wasn’t the normal trajectory that I had as a law-enforcement officer, but I just love that. And I feel like that serves to convey the perspective that being psychic, being intuitive, whatever we want to call it, it’s normal, it’s natural, and it’s innate. And so—

NOEL: I like how you use that word, that you—


NOEL: —actually brought “normal” into it, because—


NOEL: —we say, quote, unquote, a “normal” trajectory, but I don’t want you to gloss over it. Let’s go back for a second.


NOEL: Because, you just covered, like, 20 years of your life.

BELTRAN: [Laughs] Yeah.

NOEL: And your childhood is so fascinating to me. So, we have these stereotypes, right, about what a psychic looks like. You know, they should have a crystal ball, and they should be more woo-woo, and more of a free spirit. And you describe this—sounded like you were like a feisty kid, because—I love when you shared the story about growing up in a house where your mom was a psychic, so this was all present around you. So you had, like you said, access to metaphysical books. Your mom was open to having these conversations of possibility, and yet, I loved when you described that you were this little kid who said, “Yeah, that’s all great, but I want proof. I want to see the proof.”

BELTRAN: Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

NOEL: [Laughs] So, let’s go back to that. What was it like growing up? What did it mean to you as a child? Did you understand what it meant to be psychic?

BELTRAN: Right, good question. I love that. I didn’t, as a matter of fact. I didn’t know what it meant it there. At that age, I was—I found that I was very intrigued and curious, for sure, but I didn’t know what being a psychic meant. I knew that I had a sense growing up, and even young, and throughout my teens, even, that I could understand people—and many of our listeners may relate to this. I could go into a room and just kind of sense the energy that was there, and feel what felt good or maybe not so good about a situation, an event, and experience people. I found that people were coming to me often and wanting coaching and advice, and I noticed those things.

I would describe it as it was more of an intuition or a gut sense or a real knowing of people. Maybe I felt like at times, I was a little a step ahead of—like, I could see what was coming. I had no idea it was what I would call now a psychic ability. It was sort of like the precursor to it, and the foundation.

And I used it more in a gut sense in my work in law enforcement. It was what caused me to maybe go double-check that door or that facility, and for what reason, I didn’t know why, but had this pull to do it, and, well, hey, there was the burglary in progress or something going on. And we all have this.

NOEL: Exactly.

[Simultaneous talking]

BELTRAN: Right. Yeah.

NOEL: I was just thinking that. You know, you leave the house and you drive down the road, and you think, “Oh, my God, did I leave that candle burning? I’ve got to go back.”

[Simultaneous talking] BELTRAN: Yeah, right.

NOEL: And so, we get those hits. So, as a child, though, did you feel that there was something, that you had some kind of a different sense or a different gift? Was there anything that isolated you from maybe the quote, unquote, “normal” experience of childhood?

BELTRAN: Not one thing. Just a sense of all these things I’ve just explained. I just—I felt so normal. I had a curiosity.

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: And I’m glad you’ve asked this, because it reminds me of what I see so often in my work, and that is that there’s a very, very strong pattern in clients that I work with—and more often than not, what was right in our life or even maybe what was not so right in our life was going on around seven, eight, or nine. So usually—my point there is that around six, seven, eight, nine years old, we are often doing those things that we love. And much of the work that I do now, that’s where I take clients, back to that time, because we were doing what made us happy, what our calling was then. And even if we have some kind of blocks or stuck energy, it was usually around there, too, that sort of got embedded.

So it’s a pretty critical time, and I’m no exception. At nine years old, eight years old, I was curious, right? I was doing what I loved, and I—which is so often the case later in life. Boom, here it came, and it blossomed, and I’m just following that calling. So that’s one of the things I actually do work on with my clients is going back to that time. “What was it you were doing then that you loved? Take it off the shelf, dust it off, and do it now.”

NOEL: It’s like, remind yourself, right? Remind yourself of who you were.

BELTRAN: Right. Yeah.

NOEL: Was your mom a practicing psychic?

BELTRAN: She was not practicing at that time. She went through her own formal education later, but she was very in tune with that right-brain activity. She’s an artist. She worked through art therapy as a means to assist others and coach and to travel down that therapeutic road, but for herself as well. A little bit later in life came her more formal education. But, again, it was in there. And for her, it was manifesting in this artistic way, again, which many, many of us do have. You know, this notion of, “What is a psychic?” Well, I actually tend to—the word psychic, I’m not sure it’s always correct. Psychic is really just intuition, it’s ESP, it’s altered states of consciousness, it’s moments of breakthroughs. It’s pockets of genius. It’s where the artist is, in that deep work. And many artists, my mom included, would talk about when they’re in that space of artistic right-brain work. That’s where we’re feeling connected to a whole or a source—

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: —where there’s a timeless, spaceless sense. That’s what it is, right? That’s where it starts.

NOEL: It’s often that thing that gets bypassed, right? We call it other things. We’ll say, “Oh, it’s a coincidence,” you know, or—

BELTRAN: Right. Oh, there are no coincidences.

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: They are synchronicity.

NOEL: Exactly.

BELTRAN: [Laughs]

NOEL: So, that’s also like—being around children, you realize how connected to that they are, and to that power. And so I think it’s also really important to just remind our children to stay connected to that so that they don’t have to go back years and decades later, searching for it again. So tell us about what was it, that at nine years old you said, “Okay, that’s it. I want the proof. I want to see psychic.” And how was that experience for you?

BELTRAN: Yeah. So, yeah, it was more just a real curious time of exploration and, yes, wanting to see the proof, wanting to have answers. The most important thing, we’ve touched a little bit on that, about that experience was that at that age, here I was, nurturing something that was deep inside me that kind of had this calling energy and pursuing it. And it wasn’t so much about what came through in that session as much as that, at that age, here this was manifesting, and it was becoming a reality. I was curious, asking questions.

NOEL: But that’s a pretty amazing thing for a nine-year-old to be clear enough about, to ask for, right?

BELTRAN: [Laughs] Yeah.

NOEL: So even if you didn’t really understand it at the time, I don’t think many nine-year-olds ask to have a psychic reading [laughs].

BELTRAN: Absolutely. Absolutely correct. And honestly, I’m not sure what moved me to that. I just don’t have an answer. I think mostly what happened is that I trusted that inner sense of desire and curiosity. My mother made it safe— NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: —and so, I could do it. One of the things that actually comes to mind is another session later, more later in my teens that I had, that really impacted me. And I went to a psychic, and she asked me to make three wishes or intentions, something along those lines. And she said, “Say them in your mind,” and so I did. And one of the things that has always been so important to me, from a young age, is to have peace of mind, to rest my head and just have peace of mind within me. And so I made these wishes, and she told me back my wishes, and she told me, “Peace of mind.” And from that moment, I said, “My goodness. She could not possibly know this. She could not possibly know this.” So that was a pretty pivotal moment.

NOEL: Right, so—

BELTRAN: I knew there was something here [laughs].

NOEL: So, going back to the feisty nine-year-old who was sort of demanding proof—“I want proof”—so, did— BELTRAN: Yes.

NOEL: —do you feel like the seeds were planted then? Or was this later reading that really gave you the proof?

BELTRAN: It wasn’t even this later reading that gave me the proof. I’ll tell you what gave me the proof. And that was when I actually started experiencing it myself. And so, I’ll back up a little bit. Like many people who come into this work, there’s often a bottoming out. There’s a time where there’s a loss of some kind, be it a loved one, a home, a job, health. I am no exception. And I happen to have—I just got hit with this big stick [laughs], and it all came tumbling down all at once—job, finance, home, relationship—boom, here it was. And, of course, the bottoming out is difficult, but it is always correlated to the extent of the forward momentum.

And so, I just went in. I had no place to go by in, and I started developing spiritually internally, and that sort of launched me forward. And so, it was through this kind of bottoming out that I began learning more and then wanting the proof. And, of course, for me it took off quickly—images, impressions, clairvoyancy—boom, here it was. I couldn’t believe it. My jaw was dropping, and I had a very strong essence and feeling that “There is something very much bigger than me happening here.” And I have very clear memories of having a conversation with God at that time, saying, “Whatever this is, I don’t understand it, but it’s beautiful. It’s bigger than me. It’s happening. I want it rooted it rightness, or don’t bring it to me.” And so, it was awareness of how magnanimous this was.

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: And, yeah, and so at that juncture—

[Simultaneous talking]

NOEL: So let’s also talk about the bottoming out for a second.


NOEL: Because I always call that a “wake-up call,” you know [laughs].

BELTRAN: Okay. Yes.

NOEL: Yeah, you got your wake-up call.

BELTRAN: Yes, I did.

NOEL: Kind of like when we aimlessly continue on doing the same things by passing our emotions or whatever it is, repeating patterns.


NOEL: So, you had this experience that kind of knocked you for a loop, right? You had no ability to ignore this any longer, right?


NOEL: Can you share a little bit of that so perhaps maybe somebody listening can relate to it?

BELTRAN: Yeah. Yeah. It was this internal sense of—how could I put it to words? Okay, I began—it caused me to go in, and I started to ask the questions, “Why am I here? What am I meant to do? What is my calling?” And, you know, the typical nine-to-five job and having this and that, that car, that—you know, didn’t matter anymore. It was about me internally, my soul speaking, why am I here. I felt like I wanted to contribute, I wanted to give back, I wanted to grow spiritually.

By the way, all of these things, there’s a few things that are very, very similar in all of us that I’ve learned along the way, and it seems like we all kind of do reach this point, no matter how we got there, of wanting to contribute, wanting to know more, wanting to have a significance in our life. And so, all of those things, this caused me to want. And so I knew, despite the despair, despite the difficulty of the time, I knew there was more, and I knew and I trusted that what was happening here was going to be the doorway. Like, this was the vehicle to that self-actualization.

And that is—so, one of the things my teacher taught me early on—I used to think this was about being psychic when I first started. I thought, “Oh, this is so cool.” [Laughs] Well, it is. And my jaw does still drop, but it’s not about that. It’s about self-actualization and a vehicle to your forward momentum and letting your soul speak, following your calling. You know, being true to you, finding that true power.

NOEL: Right. But, again, you had these seeds planted very, very young. Well, obviously, probably just born being aware of this. Do you feel like at any point, you were pushing back against it, or you were rebelling against it? Because being brought up in a house where this was an accepted conversation and then saying, “No, I think I’m going to table this right now, and I’m going to go to school, and I’m going to work in law enforcement”—and I’m sure it just really enriched the ultimate experience and your abilities—but talk about how that juxtaposition worked and how you melded those psychic abilities with the vocation that you were in.

BELTRAN: Right. Yes. And so, early on, it wasn’t necessarily what I would call psychic ability. It was more intuition, gut sense, what we all have. And I was paying attention to my emotions. I learned very early on that my emotions were just the best compass system I had, and they would guide me. And so if there was sense of, “Well, I don’t know about this situation,” or this person, then I trusted that. Or if there was a sense of excitement about what was happening, “Okay, yes, this feels good, I’m going to do it.” And so I just tuned in to that. Those are what tendencies that typically an empath would have, that we see that in empathic people who are very in-tuned to emotion. And that’s how it first unraveled for me.

It wasn’t until the formal psychic education and after my sort of bottoming out that I really began to see what it is and learn about psychic functioning and, really, essentially what was there all along. I just didn’t know it.

NOEL: Right. And I also don’t want you to gloss over that, because you seem to me like the kind of person that’s like, “I’m going to do something, I’m going to do it all the way.” And you did—

BELTRAN: [Laughs]

NOEL: —you did go and have quite a bit of formal training. So was that during your time in law enforcement, or was it afterwards? And where was the—just take us through that.

BELTRAN: Yes. It was in the time of law enforcement. It was actually when I was a probation officer, and it was inspired, interestingly, by a supervisor of mine, wonderful supervisor, and she had lost a family member. And so, I began reading at that time about loss of loved ones and mediumship. George Anderson, the father of mediumship, has several wonderful books out there, and so I got ahold of those books and read them and reread them, and I was just fascinated, fascinated, and all the while still curious and wanting the proof, right? [Laughs]

NOEL: [Laughs]

BELTRAN: Which ultimately, I did get. There is science behind this, and it is out there. So, that sort of sparked this time, I’d say maybe my late 20s or so, early 30s, and at that time when I just read and read and read all aspects of metaphysical—about meditation, about Akashic records, about energy work, about mediumships, all kinds of things. I just became kind of a sponge for this. So, that was my own learning.

NOEL: Did you start to receive any messages about your friend’s loss?

BELTRAN: That did not happen then. It did not.

NOEL: But that was—that sparked you.

[Simultaneous speaking]

BELTRAN: It came from me. It inspired it, correct.

NOEL: Okay, okay.

BELTRAN: The actual, for me—and this may not—of course, this is certainly not someone else’s experience. Everyone is so unique in their development, I find, and I just love that. But, for me, it was when I started formal education and got in the care of teachers and experts where I felt safe, who I felt knew what they were doing. I had done research about all of this, and so that’s when it really started taking off for me. When I said—again, coupled with that bottoming out, where I really would say I was open, I was at such a place. And that’s the thing about a bottoming out. There’s no walls up anymore, inhibitions have dissolved, and we’re open. We tend to be willing to absorb instead of having these left-brain notions of what right or wrong is or should or shouldn’t be. I was just open.

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: And I wanted to grow. So that platform allowed, I believe, once the education began coming in, a safe space for it to just flourish. And that’s when it really started coming in for me.

NOEL: Tell us what training looks like. What kind of training did you have, and for how long, and with whom? Tell us, what does psychic training entail?

BELTRAN: Sure. So it began for me in psychic development, psychic as opposed to mediumship. Psychic meaning connecting with our senses, receiving mental images and impressions through our senses; mediumship meaning connecting with spirits on the other side. So I started in psychic development at a school modeled after Berkeley Psychic Institute in Berkeley, California, and went through this training program. And then on the heels of that—or, actually, during that, I had my experience with mediumship, even though I didn’t know it at the time. And so, on the heels of that, I went into a three-month mediumship program. Once successfully completing that, I—one thing just leads to another as you—once you have the door open, the teacher [inaudible].

NOEL: Sure.

BELTRAN: And it certainly did for me. And so, that then led into remote viewing, controlled remote viewing, and went through all the advanced levels there. Dr. Paul H. Smith is my teacher in remote viewing, and he was actually assigned to the military Stargate program, which is the military’s psychic-spy program. The military actually had a psychic spy program in response to Russia’s program at that time in the ’70s and ’80s, a very large budget.

NOEL: So it’s like music to your ears.

BELTRAN: Oh, yes.

NOEL: See, this is why when you said, “in spite”—or “despite”—I was like, “No. Actually, now that I hear this, it’s so rich.” It’s so rich to have these experiences in these different worlds, because we’re in this world together, all of us.

BELTRAN: Absolutely, absolutely.

NOEL: So it’s the thing I love most about your bio, is that you’ve had—you’re really walking in these two different worlds.

BELTRAN: Mm-hmm. Well, and interesting—I’m not sure they are two different words, Kristen.

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: And we tend to view that— NOEL: It’s how we perceive them, right?

BELTRAN: Correct, yes, yes. And that’s what you meant. We tend to look at this as this innate wonderful ability that we’re born with as separate from us. Like it’s something to achieve beyond us, and it’s just within us. We just have to say okay to it, right, and let it blossom. That’s it. It’s that simple.

NOEL: Well, and also, unfortunately, again, speaking in stereotypes, you think of probation officers and law enforcement and maybe prison guards as being so hardened, and it’s really nice to actually think of someone like you working in that environment, connecting on a whole other level. And that’s really a beautiful thing. So you did your training because you’re just that kind of gal. You’re going to get your proof— BELTRAN: [Laughs]

NOEL: —and do your work and get in there and have your degrees. When did you finally reach the juncture where you said, “Okay, you know what? I’m going to practice, and I’m going to take on clients”?

BELTRAN: Right, yeah. So, that actually came through one of my teachers after graduation. I have very clear memories of that conversation, and I said to her, “Well, what’s next?” [Laughs] And she said to me, essentially, “Well, you hang your shingle.”

NOEL: She kicked you right out the door [laughs].

BELTRAN: “You get out there, you do this.” She did. And thank goodness, because I did not have that in mind. I hadn’t thought about that. I was just intrigued by this wonderful ability. And here, now, it’s presenting us something that I could be a life calling and create a business with in much the same way she was.

And so I said, “Okay, I trust this.” Despite the unknowns, or maybe even some of the doubts. And I knew that it was so much bigger than me, and I just trusted that knowing. And as humans, we know truth, we know when something’s right, and I felt that rightness and that truth in this.

NOEL: Well, and also—

BELTRAN: So I did.

NOEL: And also, a great teacher, like a leader, a great leader creates leaders.

BELTRAN: Yes, they [inaudible], yes.

NOEL: So it’s wonderful that your teacher finally said, “Okay, you’re done. Out! Get out there—


NOEL: —get out there and do your stuff,” right? And what was that like?

BELTRAN: Absolutely.

NOEL: What was it like when you finally—how did you get your first client?

BELTRAN: Yeah, let me think. Okay. You know, I believe that this came through—in working with my teachers, that opened up some doors and funnels for clients. I believe it was maybe a contact through her.

NOEL: Mm-hmm.

BELTRAN: Gosh, I just can’t remember real clearly. But I believe it was some avenue through her. Also, then I just said, “Okay,” and what we typically do if we’re going to start a venture or a business in this day and age is we get a website going and we create a business card, and we give our business a name, and we begin sort of creating bios and all the nuts and bolts to create a business. And so, I did that. Put it out there [laughs].

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: Started linking with the social medias of the day, of the age, and it just took off. And I’m in gratitude every single day, every day.

NOEL: Yeah. If you build it, they will come, right?

BELTRAN: Yes, they will.

NOEL: Well, but, again, just going to back to it’s a testament to having great teachers, because it’s also about creating, co-creating, and knowing that there’s room for all of us and that they can support you and send people your way, because you were ready.

BELTRAN: Yes, yes, absolutely.

NOEL: So, then let’s talk about this wonderful book. We have to talk about this book.


NOEL: So when did you have the inspiration, and when did you know it was time to write a book? And when did you know that there was a book to birth?

BELTRAN: [Laughs] Good. I knew when I started getting requests for it. Students and clients wanted something that they could learn from, a development book. That started happening. Then I began to see—I just knew the value in it. I saw that from the get-go, that this is an avenue, a platform toward self-actualization. It changed my life, why not yours? You know when you do something and you love it so much—like, on the side, I dance, and so often, I’m in that dance space and I think to myself, “Everyone should do this. This is so awesome.” Well, it was the same thing with psychic work. “Everyone should do this. There’s value in this.” It changed my life; I want it to change yours. And so I wanted to get the message out.

I wanted people to know it’s within us. It’s not separate, like we think. And the biggest thing was kind of going back to that tenet that it’s normal. Normal people do this. It’s not a five-feet-off-the-ground, unattainable thing.

NOEL: Right. When we say “normal,” we’ll use our air quotes, right? [Laughs]

BELTRAN: Yeah [laughs].

NOEL: Well, and the other thing I’m thinking while you’re saying that, is that connecting to our psychic ability and understanding it does not mean that we have to practice. It doesn’t mean we have to hang a shingle and make this our vocation, right? So it’s really about a deeper understanding of ourselves and our abilities and our true power and essence, correct?

BELTRAN: Absolutely, and more often than not, the student that comes in to learn is pursuing it for that very reason, because they have that understanding. And they know—usually they have some level of some understanding that it’s going to assist them in that way and can. You know, when you’re in your true power, you’re able to help others—

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: —be in their true power. You said, a few moments ago, I will echo that—they have a sense about that.

NOEL: Right. Well, think about it. It’s got to be the ultimate navigational tool through life, no matter what career you’re working in. To be able to use that tool in your relationships and your connection with people brings great value.

BELTRAN: Yes. Well said. Yes.

NOEL: So, describe how someone would use your book and what your real goal with this book is.

BELTRAN: Okay, yes, good. So, okay, let me just first say this. I started Take the Leap with the discussion about intuition, and that was done for a very specific reason. I really wanted to show readers that they actually already have this natural and normal propensity or platform called their intuition. And if they could simply acknowledge, yes, that they’ve had one of those unique gut feelings or senses about something, a person, an event, or decision, something that they couldn’t explain, right, but which turned out to be right when they followed that gut sense, then their own personal experience would be their link, their connection, their evidence to kind of absorb this in. And what a great place to begin from, right?

So that was a pretty pivotal point for the development of the book. And because of that—actually, one of my favorites quotes—can I share that with you, one of my most favorite quotes?

NOEL: Yeah, I was just going to ask you. I was going to say—do you have the book with you?

BELTRAN: I have it here, yeah.

NOEL: You know what, I’d love to ask you to do two things.


NOEL: One, I know that you’re going to share, some of your favorite quotes or passages from the book, and then, two, I would love for you to just kind of randomly open the book and see where we land, and what’s the message we need to receive here in this conversation, you and I and our listeners? You can pick whatever order you want to do that in [laughs].

BELTRAN: Okay, wonderful. Okay, well, let’s talk about the quote if we could, about intuition. And so, what’s become one of my favorite quotes, based upon this sense of everyone having their own link to this ability— we can call it déjà vu—you know, it’s access through our dreams, gut sense. But one of my favorite quotes is this: “Given that intuition lives in the realm of the unexplained, you may be able to conclude that you already have the foundation for acquiring psychic abilities.”

NOEL: Mmm.

BELTRAN: So, naturally that gives—my intention and my hope was that that would give the reader permission to move forward based upon their own personal experience. They didn’t need me, they don’t need my book.

They need their own internal sense in knowing that they actually have had this.

NOEL: They just have to claim it.

BELTRAN: Absolutely.

NOEL: Right.


NOEL: And I know you had another quote, and I know we kind of moved past this very quickly, but it’s very important to you—the body-mind connection and honoring our vessels, right? And so, I think you have a quote for that, do you?

BELTRAN: Yes. So, one of the things—my life’s theme has been one of health and wellness. That’s been so ever important to me. And what I’ve recognized is that the value of taking care of my body and the temple that it is. And I work that in a fair amount with clients in my own life, in my teachings—you know, giving attention to this temple, this body that we have. We only have one, right? And so, this idea that our higher power, that soul side of us, wants to be housed in a healthy vessel.

So, one of my favorite quotes I’m looking at here in my book is, “It’s very difficult for a higher power to be housed in an unhealthy vessel.” Right? Higher power wants a healthy vessel. And so, when I talk about this, I always want to make it clear that this doesn’t mean that anyone goes and loses 20 pounds or gains 20 pounds, or whatever they—you know, it means just that you love your body now. You love who you are now, and you be happy with that. You nourish it, you rest, you hydrate, nutrition. But there’s also nourishment that comes from emotional self-healing and meditation. And so, that’s kind of my thought space behind that quote, and taking care of the body and how it relates to this work.

NOEL: Yeah, that’s a wonderful point, and obviously, you have been a professional cyclist, so I think you’ve been taking care of your vessel.

BELTRAN: [Laughs] Well, I’ve tried, and it’s certainly has helped, but, again, caring for your vessel, that was my journey, and so it just is simply just loving your body and giving it what it desires and living what healthy feels like to you.

NOEL: So, do you want to just pick something randomly? It doesn’t have to be—even if you don’t land on a quote, maybe it would just pop into a certain section and you could describe maybe that chapter, or see what comes up.

BELTRAN: Yeah, well, actually I did that, and what I’m coming to here, interestingly enough, is the section here in the writing about opening your clairvoyance, connecting with your visual reception, what that is and how to do that. And so, I guess, in a nutshell, what I would talk about here is just that third eye and that intention of seeing how to go about opening that third eye.

I first start with a talk about your intention, right? Focused intention. We know that when we say, “Yes, I’m going to do this,” and we set that intention, that’s the first order of business, if you will. And so, in this chapter I talk about setting that intention. I talk a little bit here also about meditation. You know, Kristen, if I had a magic wand and I could wave it and make everyone do what I wanted, I’d have them meditate [laughs]. That’s not in the book.

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: But that’s what I’m saying to you now as I look at this chapter on meditation and the value of it.

NOEL: And I just have to tell you that this, you going—in this chapter, this was my next question.

BELTRAN: Oh, my goodness.

NOEL: Literally have my finger on it.

BELTRAN: [Laughs]

NOEL: So, you just let it roll, because it was my next question.


NOEL: You don’t need me here [Laughs].

BELTRAN: I love this. Yeah. Good. So, yeah, so, there’s so much goodness out there about meditation and how to do it and what it is. But truly, it’s going to be—I’ll say it’s going to be the simplest and the hardest thing you’ll ever do, because there is a natural tendency in meditation for us to think. We’re humans, we want to think. And so we have thought that wants to come in. And so that kind of can sometimes create a little bit of an obstacle, but it is so very powerful. It is what separates the good—let’s see—it’s what separates the very profound and veteran psychics and remote viewers and intuitives from, perhaps, those who may are more of a beginner or doing not quite as well, maybe, perhaps, as they’re desiring. It’s that meditation.

And the reason is because in meditation, we learn to quiet our mind. We learn to close that left brain. And when we do that, we—the left brain is so powerful, it wants to try and come in and create what we think’s right. There’s these tendencies of trying to nail the target or nail what’s coming in or get—and that’s all ego. So meditation helps us to move away from that, so, very, very valuable.

Even if a person was not practicing psychic development, I would say meditate. There’s so much research that shows the benefits of it emotionally, physically, mentally are dynamic, right? There’s even research that shows us that the brain actually will grow and change after 11 hours of meditation. Studies out there are showing that. So, very valuable.

But, again, there is not any right way about meditation. I would say to listeners that meditation, really, in its strictest sense, it’s kind of—we think about meditation as being on the pillow, quiet, palms up, feet on the ground. But that runner that’s out getting that runner’s high, that artist that’s drawing that canvas, my mother and her clay work, that is also nurturing this side of us. So that, in essence, is somewhat like meditation as well. So the message here, that right brain, musical, artist, dance, bring it in, do it.

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: For sure, that matters.

NOEL: That leads me into my question, which is, how are we getting in our own way, and how are we blocking the third eye and our clairvoyance?

BELTRAN: Right. Wonderful. I love that question. Okay. Couple things. There is a very innate, strong tendency within human nature to have a fear of failure. As a psychic intuitive, remote viewer, someone in mediumship, whatever modality you choose in the metaphysical psychic realm, you must be able to tolerate failure and not be obsessed with success. It can happen, and so, this is not an end-all, be-all. It is not going to give us all answers. In fact, we don’t want to have answers. And I teach my clients and students that the unknowns are safe, right? If we had all the knowns, we would actually go crazy. So we think we want them, but we don’t [laughs].

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: Right. And therein come dreams, right? Dreams is a way to process things in life, and such. So it’s okay to not have those knowns. I think people tend to get—fear comes when we aren’t educated, when we have the fear of failure. And, it’s okay to not have all the answers. Psychic functioning, psychic seeing is—think of it like bits of information; support, guidance, assistance. Okay, that’s the first thing I would say about that blockage question.

The second thing would be about that, again, going back to that left brain. In the remote viewing realm, we call this mental noise. That’s where our left brain wants to leap forward into what we expect should be, right?

NOEL: Mm-hmm.

BELTRAN: So, okay, I’m going to describe something to you that I’m holding in my hand. Are you ready?

NOEL: Sure.

BELTRAN: I’ve got an object in my hand. It’s red, round, and it’s edible. Okay. So what most people do when they hear that is, instantly they do two things. They want to leap to, “Oh, what is that?” And maybe someone’s feeling that.

NOEL: Yeah, and then you leap to, “I want to get it right.” [Laughs]

BELTRAN: Exactly. “I want to nail that. I want to get it right.”

NOEL: “I want to get the right answer.” Yeah.

BELTRAN: And that’s ego, that’s pure ego, and there’s no place for that here. So, that mental noise, that’s one aspect we want to just—again, here comes that value of meditation that helps us to quiet that. And the second thing that usually happens there, when I teach this in class, is that a person will typically leap to, “Oh, it’s an apple, right? Red, round, edible.” And so, that’s an absolutely wonderful display of the power of your left brain, that tricky little left brain that wants to come in and get what it was, and it leaps to an apple as a conclusion when actually, this could have been a red hard-boiled Easter egg, a radish, a berry. You know, it could have been a number of things. But we tend to associate, we tend to leap to what is so closely related to us, or a recent experience. So the person that had an apple this morning or last night, that’s going to come in more powerfully.

So, definitely, [inaudible] but not in the sense that we don’t overcome them. We have tools and development to alleviate them, and that comes with consistency, practice, right? Psychic development is very much like a muscle. We have to practice, practice, practice, like anything, right? Mozart just didn’t come out of the chute wonderful [laughs]. And his ability, or many other thought leaders or people who are experts at what they do, they practice. But in any event, these are some of the things that can limit us that certainly we can work through as we develop.

NOEL: Yeah. And I want to ask you about something that you had mentioned to me earlier, a sensory field trip. Can you tell us what that is?


NOEL: Can you describe that little field trip?

BELTRAN: Yes. And that was also a part of the chapter that we flipped to a few moments ago. And in kind of expanding on that more, in addition to the meditation and spirit-development circles as you develop your ability, this sensory field trip is huge. It’s pretty dynamic. And so, essentially, what it is, is getting a deeper sense of your own inner senses, your heightened senses, your, what we call “clairabilities.” We have clairvoyance, which means clear seeing; clairaudience, which is clear hearing; clairgustance; clairolfactory— all these different sensibilities on a heightened sense. Our daily senses taken higher, right?

So what I encourage my students to do is to go to a sensory-rich place—a zoo, a local grocery store or farmers market, where there’s a lot of sensory data happening. Take 30 or 40 minutes and experience it in a new way, right? We tend to have these blinders on and go in and get what we need and leave, but we never pay attention to what we’re really smelling and what we’re really seeing and what we’re hearing, and what direction it’s coming from. Looking high, looking low, feeling the temperature, what’s around us, what’s under our feet, noticing textures. All of these kinds of sensory-data kinds of inputs and influx, we want to go and pay attention to. Let go of that tunnel vision for a little bit, right, and really notice these things. What you do in this space is, you’re just essentially saying hello to your senses. You’re inviting them to come in. You’re opening the door to it, to them.

One of the things that I really notice for my own self is, I started in my work with this, and which I actually do also see in students, is that often we have directional messages. It was from one of these experiences that I actually began to discover that something coming in—ultimately, what I realized was that something coming in from the far left meant past, something in front of me meant present, and something to the right was future. And so, that became a way for me to receive directionally.

NOEL: Can I just interrupt you a second and ask you—

BELTRAN: Yeah, please.

NOEL: —could you just—like, for example, what kind of a thing would come in to the left? Like, what kind of sense?

BELTRAN: Yeah, uh-huh. Good. For me in a session, it would be—because I am strongly clairvoyant, which means I see images—by the way, we often tend to have one or two of these abilities that are strongest, not just one. For me, it’s clear vision. I’m very in-tuned to that ability and clear hearing. So, in my case, it would be a vision coming in from the left, for example. For someone else who maybe has a different ability going on, they might hear something in that way, in that left ear.

Okay, so I’ll give you an example. I had a client recently. We were working through her life calling and her future and doing some past work in her childhood. And from the past, an image came in of seeing her teaching a classroom. And I asked her about that, and she said, “My goodness, this is just incredible.” She had always wanted to teach, but it never—and, by the way, we spoke about this earlier—

NOEL: Wow.

BELTRAN: —that manifested for her when she was nine years old.

NOEL: Right.

BELTRAN: Nine, ten years old, in that time frame. And she said, “My goodness, I have had”—she had this dream or vision, something of the sort, about that, that she never forgot, but she didn’t let it come because, here again, those blocks, those silly blocks, right, and she had a little bit of an uncertainty around children. And so, we’re working through that. But now in her life, it’s coming forward, and she’s using that. So that picture, for me, came from that time, past, of her. So it would be something like that. Does that answer that question?

NOEL: Yeah, no, it does, a lot.


NOEL: Especially when you were talking about meditation. Because, again, for me, it’s often just about creating that quiet space. And that’s when a lot of visions come in, and those are the kinds of visions or inspiration that you can easily dismiss. But—


NOEL: —I really try to pay attention to that. And I love this notion of going into a market, because I have to tell you, when I go grocery shopping, it’s like, boom, boom, boom, and I’m not—

BELTRAN: Exactly.

NOEL: —I’m going down the same aisles, in the same direction—

BELTRAN: [Laughs]

NOEL: —picking up the same—and so, that’s really a great reminder for us to slow down and really experience what’s happening around us.

BELTRAN: Absolutely. Absolutely. And I’ll add one interesting little caveat on a personal level, or kind of a story here. What I’ve noticed in doing all this work, when I come to a movie or watching television—I don’t watch it often, but when I do, I notice that—you know, we might be looking at the character who’s the main thing on the movie screen, but I notice the street name in the background, or I notice the color of the dress that the person across the street in the back’s wearing. So, what’s happened is my—just kind of expanding on your point here—that you’re opening up to more. You’re open, you’re receptive, you’re connected, you’re seeing beyond that tunnel vision.

NOEL: It’s like you’re seeing layers. BELTRAN: And this is what natural—

NOEL: Right?


NOEL: Yeah.

BELTRAN: Correct, yes.

NOEL: So, honestly, I could talk to you about this all day, but I don’t want to crunch our time because I know you have this special gift for our listeners today, and you’re going to guide us in a modified version of your clairvoyant meditation, “Open the Third Eye,” and they’re also going to get this wonderful downloadable PDF if they would like to access. So I’m just going to turn this over to you right now to begin and to guide us.

BELTRAN: Wonderful, excellent. Okay, very good. So, this is a meditation designed to assist you in opening your clairvoyance ability. I would ask that everyone put their feet flat on the ground, sit comfortably with their palms up, as we begin.

All right. There is a dimension within you that is beyond this reality. It is that space void of minutes and days and has no semblance of time. Here, it matters not how old you are, what you look like, where you live, or who you know. Your life situation now has no relevance in this dimension of inner knowing and stillness. It is this place we go to in meditation today. Release the need to know yourself through concepts and thoughts. We’re going to a place where there is not knowing and where it is safe to release all thought, concern, and daily ongoings. You will be able to come back to all of that after this meditation.

In a comfortable seated position with your feet flat on the ground, begin to give attention to your breath. Say hello to your breath. Relax, close your eyes, and breathe in. Feel the gentle and gradual rise and fall of your chest. Feel the expansion and compression of your lungs, your posture and body’s dignity. So be mindful of how you’re sitting. An upright posture is better. Become aware of and notice your entire body. If there are areas of stiffness or pain, release them.

Now, put your attention on your forehead, above and between your eyes. This is where your third eye is located. This is the root of your clairvoyance. Here, you begin to strengthen, unravel, and become in tune with your clairvoyant ability. Let your attention be present in this space for a few moments.

Next, envision a large, very large eye in this area. What does this eye look like to you? Are the lashes long or short? Is this eye almond shaped or round? Is there color? Visualize this third eye as larger than life. Imagine it, wide open and alive. Envision it pulsing, rich with life. Breathe and be present with this image of your third eye as it reveals itself to you fully.

As you begin to become more aware of and in-tuned to your third eye, it awakens. Trust, intend, and expect this ability is strengthening. Once you set this intention, the universe has heard you. Your only task is to let the ability blossom. Even after this meditation is over, your third eye and your psychic ability is still flourishing.

We’re now going to create your reading screen. A reading screen is a receptacle of sorts, much like a movie screen captures a movie. Your third eye and your reading screen work together and are as one. This receptacle will be a tool where you will see images and pictures of higher essence as you grow in your spiritual knowing. Images will present on your reading screen much the same way that you just imagined your largerthan-life third eye.

Next, imagine this reading screen out in front of you. Make it be whatever you desire. You might imagine a movie screen, a computer screen, or a giant chalkboard. Whatever feels right to you, create this. Once it is created, look closely at the details of it. What color is it? How big is it? What is it made of?

Let’s begin using your third eye and reading screen together. Picture an image releasing from your third eye. Let it go to this viewing receptacle. See the image present clearly and as detailed as possible. It doesn’t matter what image comes to your awareness, just let it come and be aware of it. What is this image you see? Is it big? Is it small? Is there color? If you could touch it, how would it feel? Are you unsure? Then reach out and touch it. Does it move? Do you smell anything? What sounds do you hear—chirps, bells, the wind? Gently become aware of all these details.

We’re now going to open your third eye fully so that you can begin to access and open the door to your own intuition and psychic knowing. Place any finger from your hand between your eyes and above the bridge of your nose, then push up slightly toward the center of your forehead. Rotate your finger to the left a few times in a circular motion, then to the right a few times in a circular motion. Take a deep breath, inhale and exhale. This simple but profound action sends the message to your third eye to begin opening. Be mindful now of this wide-open eye as you go through your day. It is accessible at any time you desire. You need now only tune in to this space and receive.

Gradually begin becoming aware of your breath again. Breathe in and breathe out. Bring your attention to your body and gently begin wiggling your toes and your hands. Breathe in and breathe out. Notice sounds around you. Breathe in and breathe out. When you’re ready, open your eyes.

NOEL: Very powerful. And, I have to say, the biggest thing for me was, it felt like it was a minute.

BELTRAN: Very powerful.

NOEL: Really, really wonderful. And I want to thank you, Michelle, and no pun intended, but it has been a third-eye-opening delight speaking with you today. I am so grateful to you for that gift, that meditation. I don’t know where I just went, but [laughs] it was nice. And thank you for sharing your journey with us and for reminding us that we can trust our intuitive voices, and for making the connections that the practice of psychic energy will place us in a greater state of balance, and that our overall physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being will improve in doing so. And, I have to say, I don’t think I’m ever going to walk through a grocery store or a market and see it the same way ever again.

BELTRAN: Wonderful. Well, thank you, Kristen. Truly an honor and pleasure.

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